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Eight and a Half Years...... Time For the Republican Candidates to Pull Their Heads Out of the Sand

Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:42 PM EST
politics, afghanistan, iraq, democrats, foreign-policy, republican-candidates
By DocPhil
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The last of our troops who were stationed in Iraq will be home within the next few weeks. This will mark the end of an era. It is an end of a war that many Americans have felt was ill advised and poorly executed.  It is the end of a war that cost thousands of American lives and injured many more thousands of our troops. It ends eight and a half years of being mired in mideast quicksand on a mission we announced as accomplished within weeks of the invasion. Almost eight in ten Americans believe that getting out of Iraq is the right thing to do.

So why does this end of a war deserve this article? Simple....... Listen to every Republican presidential candidate, with the exception of Ron Paul, and what do you hear? The United States is wrong to be leaving Iraq this quickly. The job is not done. We should be leaving anywhere from 20,000 to 50,000 troops permanently stationed in Iraq. We should immediately reopen talks with the Iraqi government and insist on our right to maintain a troop presence. Our president is using poor judgement in ending war.

Remember, this is Iraq. This was a war predicated, at best, on faulty intelligence and, at worst, on a series of executive branch lies to the American people. This was a war against a people who were ruled by a disgusting dictator, but not the dictator who was involved in the September 11th attacks on the United States. This was a war that never had clear goals, but managed to take up eight and a half years. A period about twice as long as our active involvement in World War II.

Yet the Republican candidates for President would like to see us remain in Iraq. They would also like the United States to increase our presence in Afghanistan and take an increasingly militaristic turn against Iran. These are candidates for President, whose foreign policy goals are as militaristic as any group of candidates in our recent history. They believe that might makes right. That the United States exceptionalism is demonstrated by establishing military hegemony over the world. That belief most clearly applies to their views on the middle east.

If Americans want to understand why voting for these Republican candidates is a poor decision for America, do not count the trillions of dollars that are spent in maintaining a military / industrial complex. Count instead, the lives of our children who get sent into these wars without directions. Think about our young men and women who are getting wounded and dying for patches of desert that have little, if any, military significance for America. Think about trying to transform countries that don't want to be transformed and losing any chance of winning the hearts and minds of the people of those countries. Think for a moment, about every person in those countries we kill and how many relatives of those people we turn into eternal haters of the American way. It is how we assist in developing fanatics, for whom death is holy if they also kill Americans.

We will win the middle east, not through war, but through education and modernization. The Republican candidates are wrong. Their position is fundamentally slapping the great majority of Americans in the face. They should go back to the old American belief that we leave our political differences at our shores. They must come aboard with a foreign policy for the 21st century, not an imperialistic policy of the early 20th.

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DocPhil

thank goodness our troops are coming home..... now we should hope for peace throughout the world....

CoH please

  • 10 votes
Reply#1 - Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:43 PM EST
DS12

I too am glad that our brave men and women are coming home and it was ten years to late IMO. With this withdrawal comes one thing that republicans should be embracing....a reduction in divorces in the military which has grown over the years. I think republicans would be jumping for joy for "family" relationships instead of furthering dividing the military families if they want to continue to support the war so bad....enlist....too old send a family member....to young.....just ask newt he supports child labor/s.

A prayer for those that lost and those lost for bush's war as well as a prayer for those injured and those family's of injured. Thanks For Your Service.

  • 7 votes
#1.1 - Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:56 PM EST
Isoctoverb

Sand....
Huh, so that's what you call the space between a republicans buttocks.
I never knew that, I'll be damned, I finally learned something in here I didn't already know.

  • 5 votes
#1.2 - Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:34 AM EST
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GoldenGateMami_Susi

Pull Their Heads Out of the Sand

Oh, I would go a little bit more anatomical than just "sand."

They are pissed for one reason (ok, two) and two reasons only ~

1. It wasn't a GOP/Conservative/Religious Bagbutt who was at the helm to TRULY claim "Mission Accomplished" and "Welcome Home."

2. All this happened on Obama's watch.

  • 12 votes
Reply#2 - Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:07 PM EST
DocPhil

I was attempting to be a gentleman. I've been getting a bit of criticism for going over the top lately. You're right though. If it were a "President Palin" {Lord help us all}, the repubs would be hailing her as eligible for sainthood.

  • 10 votes
#2.1 - Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:14 PM EST
GoldenGateMami_Susi

Yes, Doc, I know......so I took the low road for you :) which lately isn't too hard to do with these knee slapping buttbags.

If Thugbitch gets the nomination wanna make a bet he'll tap Bachmann to be his VP

LOLOL

Couldnt type that with a straight face.

  • 8 votes
#2.2 - Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:00 PM EST
Baron Brian

@GGMami_Susi,

My computer keyboard thanks you for the latte that was just spit all over it. I'm not sure whether "knee slapping buttbags" or "Thugbitch" caused the eruption yet...

FTR, I didn't think the Republicans had their heads in sand, either. More like up their *&^*^%es, but not sand.

  • 3 votes
#2.3 - Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:40 AM EST
GoldenGateMami_Susi

LOL@Baron

Sometimes the things that just flow from my fingertips are beyond my control!...My apologies to your computer keyboard.

I just hope you were in the privacy of your own home so you didn't have to explain the "eruption" to anyone around you.

WTH did I come up with knee banging buttbags??

Lord have mercy!

lol

  • 2 votes
#2.4 - Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:03 AM EST
Baron Brian

Fortunately, the keyboard is tough. But I might have to get a second job so I can buy three or four replacements, because one can only get drenched in coffee (or beer) so many times before giving up the ol' electronic ghost.

I've got better sense (barely) than to check out the 'Vine in a public library or at a friend's house...gettin' kicked out of places is still kinda hard on the ego, even for a veteran troublemaker like me! ;}

lol

  • 2 votes
#2.5 - Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:58 AM EST
GoldenGateMami_Susi

Well, I'm glad to hear it.

Makes you a smart man...cause trouble, step back, watch what happens...don't get any of the fling that's flung on you.

LOL

    #2.6 - Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:40 AM EST
    Baron Brian

    @GGMami_Susi,

    Barroom brawling was one of my favorite "sports" back in the day...especially the ones I started that I didn't actually punch anybody out---or get punched out---in. Settin' off that kind of chaos AND keeping all one's teeth and blood is an art, lemme tell ya!

      #2.7 - Sat Dec 17, 2011 9:28 PM EST
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      Rebel Rouser

      Iraq was nothing more than a private war for the profiteering of Bush and Cheney thru Halliburton. They should be held accountable for the loss and destruction of lives both here and there.

      • 7 votes
      Reply#3 - Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:11 PM EST
      Flashypaws

      bleh.

      i saw the headline and came here to make an ass joke, but susi beat me to it, and with much more class than i would have been able to muster.

      • 3 votes
      Reply#4 - Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:06 PM EST
      Isoctoverb

      Hey, you can't have too many high class ass jokes in a political blog. Let er rip, light that baby, spread em, show us some bum....

      • 2 votes
      #4.1 - Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:39 AM EST
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      Grisham

      America and the West should not be invading other countries, especially when they're doing so based on a lie. Iraq was a money dumping, personal vendetta by Bush. Bush should be brought up on charges for crimes against humanity.

      • 3 votes
      Reply#5 - Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:11 AM EST
      Isoctoverb

      While we all know it ain't gonna happen that doesn't mean it doesn't bear discussion.

      Now getting a crowd together to hang Cheney, that seems doable. I imagine you wouldn't even have to run a Craigs list ad.

      • 3 votes
      #5.1 - Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:42 AM EST
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      brimfulofasha

      What are we going to do? Send them some of our Marxist Professors to teach them the way? LMFAO!

      • 1 vote
      Reply#6 - Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:55 AM EST
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